There is no future in hope therefore we cannot hope for the best.

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By Coolbreezing

Source: Mentalhelp.net

What this article is aiming for is a complete removal of the word “hope” out of the dictionary or at least a change in definition that is more equivalent to the

Hope leaves fate to rely on undetermined result, and the mind can only have hope for the result that is advantageous to the person. And any result that has been pampered with effort is not hopeful but rewarded. We expect result out of effort we don’t hope for it.

Realistically speaking everyone who has “hope” for something has a preference which they gravitates towards. It may be that they don’t really care if their preference is not the chosen one, but they have a preference nonetheless.

If they didn’t have a preference than we can conclude that they had no hope whatsoever. We are right about hope gives temporary contentment, but it also set us up for disappointment. Therefore, expectation is a better choice of word.

Posted by Pachuca on hubpages.

"Although this may be true to some extent, it seems on the negative. I am an optimist and I am a dreamer. I believe in hope and no matter how many times I am disappointed, I rise to the occasion and get back on my feet again. Working hard -- although necessary--doesn't always reap the rewards we expect either. So hope is necessary I feel along with working hard. But that just me. All in all I enjoyed this poem!"

A reply to Pachuca's comments

I love your comment it shows that you are thinking. However, if we were to replace expectation in place of hope, it would appear clear that when we hope all that we’re doing is putting a bet on expectation.

When we hope we are choosing sides. We are expecting the good results to be the winner. In a way if you really think about it there is no such thing as hope, there are only expectations. If you consciously or unconsciously did something wrong such as disobeying your job procedure, you expect a disciplinary action to be taken against you, but you do not hope for it.

For every action there is a reaction not that for every action there is a hope. We hope for a result that is a product of our efforts. If we don’t like the result it is only because our efforts have not been enough or

Our efforts have been overlooked, not that we’re not lucky. If our efforts are recognized by our society than we should get back what we put in. We can’t hope for it, we must continue trying to get that result.

We may hope because we love to dream, but the only time hope exists is when no effort has been placed to accomplish that dream. Once we have put in our efforts, we no longer dreaming, we now have expectation.

I f a person doesn’t get what he wants then what does hope has to do with anything. You can’t set yourself up by expecting result that you work hard for. If you are disappointed, it is not because you set your hope too high, but only because you have missed calculated your efforts or your efforts have been overlooked.

A missed calculation of efforts doesn’t imply that you have set your hope too high. A person can only have hope when no efforts have been placed forwards. Once the person put in the work to achieve something, it doesn’t matter how little the effort, expectation is awaiting confirmation.

If your reasoning for proving me wrong has not been sufficient enough to identify the fault in my logic you cannot say that my argument is base on false teaching – before you can deny me, you must prove me wrong first. If you can do that I will worship you.

Posted by Treasuresofheaven on hubpages

“You got my eyebrows raised. One definition for Hope is: "confident desire". That tells me that hope is an attitude and feeling that keeps us moving forward. The basis for Hope is the action that we have done. You have me thinking!!! I hope you will respond to this. Thanks for bring Hope to our attention”.

When we look up a definition of a word or a meaning of an idea to determine the validity of that idea, we must also study the action of the adjective that correspond to that word, and understand the end result it produces.

Therefore, if “hope” doesn’t elevate the person to have confidence we cannot say things like hope means “confident desire”, it doesn’t matter what dictionary you get the meaning from, it’s not a valid definition.

There is no confident or desire about hope. As a matter fact it’s even a contradiction to say that we get confident out of “hope”. If hope left us pending between -1 +1 how can we say that hope brings us confidence? In actuality we cannot, hope is thus not having enough confidence in our efforts.

After all, if we did we would have expected result from our efforts without having to hope for it. Whether or not the results satisfied our efforts depends on those who merited the efforts. Some will think that our effort deserve to be incremented others may not; it will all depends on their state of mind, interest and how they value our efforts.

You right about hope being thought of as an attitude, but it is not a feeling, and it does not help us move forward.

Hope is an attitude in the sense that some of us don’t put enough efforts into our passion, but yet expect positive result, whereas, others put enough efforts into their passion, continuously taken steps towards more positive result.

The above mentioned is an attitude that is base on Newton’s law of motion – for every action there is a reaction.

Meaning you’ll eventually get back what you put in as long as you understand the terrain at which you’re operating. If you don't understand it, you won't know how to turn your efforts into positive results.

If you do understand it, you must know how to work it so that you don’t sale yourself short, because you may be more valuable than you think. Meanwhile, the interest group would have wanted you to think that you less valuable so that they're able to extract more out of you.

Hope cannot be thought as a feeling because hope is depending on effort to have that feeling. When we hope we are forecasting on what the positive and negative outcome could be. There is no feeling in that, the feeling is in the effort we have put in. We don’t hope to be the best for the simple fact of hoping, we placed the bet on our best effort.

Hope doesn’t help us move forward, our effort does. Efforts incorporate actions; we say we have hope because of the pending results when in actuality it is the expectation of our efforts we depended on.

Therefore, hope can only exist when the person thinks that his or her efforts have not been sufficient enough. If the person thinks that his or her efforts have been good enough than from that point “hope” is no longer part of the picture, it is only expectation we are dealing with at this point.

One thing that should come to light when we talk about hope is that it can also be inseminated into the environment to impregnate the people’s perspective reality of the facts. In which case the hope they have been given to hold on to is never delivered to them, but since the lie keeps the hope alive, they see the promise as being delivered.

Hope and wish are both synonymous, they both means the same thing except that “hope” is sometime use in conjunction with “fate” which should not be. When someone has “fate” it means that this person has certain “expectation” in his work not that it’s fate out of thin air.

T o “wish” is to hope for the best of our expectation to come true. The point we are making is that if effort has been applied than we are no longer hoping or wishing for anything, to some level we have expectation. We cannot wish or hope for expectation because we rely on our effort for the conclusion.

Furthermore, let’s look at Newton second law of motion.

if f = m * a where f = efforts m = obstacle and a = destination

It would be obvious if we want to reach our destination (a) at a certain time we have to put in our effort (f) so that we can push our obstacle (m) out of the way. Without putting in the effort all that we can do is to hope and wish for the best.

If we wanted to know the weight of our obstacle we would have had to solve for (m) which would have call for a whole bunch of other staff which we do not need for this explanation.

If there is one thing I hope for is not to have all the Christians coming down on me because of that definition. After all, God would have wanted us to tell the truth.

Truthfulness can only be determined by balancing reason with facts. We do not accept truth without sufficient reason for it. If there is enough evidence to prove that a statement is true by denying it can only prove that we are not willing to accept the reason that supports it, but by no way does it imply that the standing proposition still stands.

If the reasoning for proving us wrong has not been sufficient enough to identify the fault in our logic you cannot say that our argument is base on false teaching – before you can deny us, you must prove us wrong first.

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Mr. Happy Level 7 Commenter 18 months ago

I deny you nothing amigo. It's all up to you. Personally, I do not need hope. Actually, I stay away from hope, it is detrimental in my opinion and I shall tell you why I think so.

You most likely heard the story with the horse and the carrot on the stick: the rider hold a stick with a rope tied at one end to which he added a carrot. From the back of the horse the rider extends his stick and the carrot dangles at the nose of the horse. The horse wanting the carrot starts to run and thus, rider has the horse running fast hoping it will get the carrot.

You see, this is why I dislike the notion of hope. It leaves to much to chance. In hope I lose control. Or in hope I have no control.

If I say that I am going fishing tomorrow, it would be fine for me to say that I hope it doesn't rain. IN the case of rain, indeed that is all I can do: hope and keep my fingers crossed. Maybe I'll hope for Alladin's lamp too while I am at it.

On the other hand, if I want something done: I wish for it done. Meanwhile I prepare, plan and wish everything will go accordingly, without what I would call "fuck-ups". Wishes for me are to be achieved, hope is to be gambled with and I don;t gamble. Just my opinion, yours if different would be no less right, or wrong.

(You have a slight resemblence to Nas, anyone ever tell you that?)

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Coolbreezing Hub Author 18 months ago

Thanks for your comment Mr. Happy

Hope and wish are both synonymous, they both means the same thing except that “hope” is sometime use in conjunction with “fate” which should not be. When someone has “fate” it means that this person has certain “expectation” in his work not that it’s fate out of thin air.

T o “wish” is to hope for the best of our expectation to come true. The point we are making is that if effort has been applied than we are no longer hoping or wishing for anything, to some level we have expectation. We cannot wish or hope for expectation because we rely on our effort for the conclusion.

Let’s look at Newton second law of motion.

f=m×a

where f=effort,m =obsticle and a=destination

It would be obvious if we want to reach our destination (a) at a certain time we have to put in our effort (f) so that we can push our obstacle (m)out of the way. without putting in the effort all that we can do is to hope and wish for the best.

If we wanted to know the weight of our obstacle we would have had to solve for (m) which would have call for a whole bunch of other staff which we do not need for this explanation.

Now, talking about Nas, I have never met him before, but I have listened to his music. I think he is a great artist, and if he’s even resemble me slightly he must be then a good looking guy.

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ecoggins Level 4 Commenter 17 months ago

This is an interesting hub and intriguing discussion. It definitely makes one think about the definition of hope. However, I think it would a grave mistake to take the word from the human vocabulary. (Although I am sure that taking it out of the dictionary would not erase it from the human experience).

It is true that people often interchange the word hope and wish, but they are most definitely not the same thing. They are the same thing when someone says "I hope I get a new car for Christmas" or "I wish my mom would buy me a new bicycle for my birthday." When used as such, you are right it is a useless word.

But that is not what I think of when I think of hope. Treasureofheaven set forth the true sense of hope when she set forth "confident desire" as the true definition of hope.

Hope is the attitude you have in your heart that drives you to initiate an effort. Yes the reward comes not by wishing or hoping for it, but by actually exerting the blood, sweat, and tears to get it done. But if a person did not have hope, he or she would not even attempt to make the effort. In fact, without hope, a person would not even get out of bed in the morning.

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Coolbreezing Hub Author 17 months ago

HI! Ecoggins

We like you because you have the ability to make us think and we appreciate having you as a friend because of it. However, if weren’t who we are you would have convinced us because to some extent your argument is penetrating.

You are right we cannot remove the word "hope" out from the human experience, but what we can do is to redefine the meaning to an answer that is more relevant.

It is our understanding that if we were to teach our children not to have “hope” they would rely more on their effort while at the same time be mindful about the interest that clouds their efforts.

Ok fair enough – let us fragmentized the first sentence. “Hope is the attitude you have in your heart that drives you to initiate an effort”. If hope is an attitude than we must understand the value of attitude so that we can balance out your reasoning with facts.

Wikipedia described Attitude as: “An attitude is a hypothetical construct that represents an individual's degree of like or dislike for an item. Attitudes are generally positive or negative views of a person, place, thing, or event—this is often referred to as the attitude object. People can also be conflicted or ambivalent toward an object, meaning that they simultaneously possess both positive and negative attitudes toward the item in question.”

After having fragmentized your sentence structure, we’ve found out if attitude can be though of as judgments than whatever it is that is being judge must share an interest that attracts the positive or negative attitude that one has for or against something – agree?

Now, since we have derived the attitude as being aimed at a particular interest we can now say interest provokes expectation, which would have brought us to the initial assertion that any goal that has been pampered with effort cannot be hopeful.

If attitude is goal towards interest which has expectations as a derivative than in order to have positive attitudes in favour of a result we must put in our efforts. And once we have put in our efforts we no longer have hope, but now have expectation.

In essence what we have found out is that – it is not the “hope” that makes us gets out of bed but instead the interest that makes us hopeful.

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Mr. Happy Level 7 Commenter 17 months ago

I am back because I wasn't clear last time ... perhaps there is no clearty in this subject though. The difference of opinions on "hope" is I think a matter of how we perceive life.

I honestly do not "hope" for anything ... unless I hope for failure. Hope leaves too much to chance. Let me hit-up the casino and hope I hit 21 on each hand of black-jack ... hope is the carrot on the stick as I said earlier. In hope, you lose control because you may pray to god (hoping) that it doesn't rain tomorrow because you wanna go golfing.

If I wish for something I take concrete steps in achieving what I wish for. My wishes are followed by actions and are guided by reason and logic. I do not wish for genies in bottles. My wishes translate to action and thus, come to life. I do not hope, that is useless in my opinion.

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Coolbreezing Hub Author 17 months ago

Well, first we have to admit that there is clarity in this subject because if there weren’t any no one would have considered it. It would not have been to your interest, the very reason why you are replying proves that there is clarity in the subject.

No clarity would have implied that there is a lack of understanding or insufficient reason to prove a point. As long as these characteristics does not exist, we cannot say that there is no clarity in the subject.

It’s hard to accept the reasoning because it is entirely impossible as Ecoggins suggested to remove the traditional concept of “hope” from the human experience. Traditional thinking is hard to get rid of, it determine a whole different new perspective and a broader view of long term prospects.

We think that you agree with our proposition, and you have lived your life accordingly, but at the same time you are not willing to accept it because of traditional thinking. Now, we have to remember that we are not saying that hope doesn’t exist. We are simply saying in cases where efforts have been made to achieve a goal hope is out of the question.

At the same time we have to keep in mind that the hope we talk about is not the promise we are often given by some member of our society. We should also consider that promises can sometimes be lies best friend and thereby the very thing that keeps hope alive.

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Mr. Happy Level 7 Commenter 17 months ago

So, is it "entirely impossible ... to remove hope"? Or is it "hard to get rid of" it? From my point of view, the answer is the latter.

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Coolbreezing Hub Author 17 months ago

Well the mind is very adaptive. For example today while communicating with a friend on facebook – she asked me how is your daughter? Almost instinctively I responded well she had a cold for almost a week hopefully she gets rid of it by now.

In this particular case the word “hope” was rightfully use because she hasn’t take anything to get rid of it. We are letting her immune system fight it off, had she taken something to get rid of the cold, it would have been more like an expectation. As if to expect her to get well.

However, by implying that the latter is a better choice you are right, because if we were to look at other cultures and their languages, it could be possible that the word “hope” is none existence.

For example in the Haitian Culture the word “hope” is interchangeable with the word “swete”. Perhaps in some other languages the word hope may not exist, but nonetheless, we couldn’t think of any culture where the idea of hoping for something without putting any effort a unique case. Where the word hope may not exist in a particular language vocabulary the idea of hoping for something must exist.

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Mr. Happy Level 7 Commenter 17 months ago

lol Thanks for the conversation. I am enjoying it and if you do not mind I would like to continue.

Your example about your daughter and the reply to the question of how she was doing is perfect. And there might even be a paradox there. (lol thoughts flooding my mind ...)

You stating that "you hope" she gets rid of the cold is in a way a helpless, uncontrollable expectation of the future. In that sense, I see hope useless.

In this case though, your inaction, in my opinion is the best action possible and the right one. You know your daughter best but by not giving her medication, I assume you know she has a healthy immune system. That will clear her cold. You willed for her cold to go away by letting her immune system take care of it. That was your wish I think, even if you did not state it.

Hope is so useless, lol ... I find no reason for it. Except in religious matters I suppose.

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Coolbreezing Hub Author 17 months ago

I know that her immune system is fairly good. However, by allowing the immune system to fight the virus will in turn strengthen it. This can be referred to as “wish by reasonable doubt”.

In this particular case, the “wish” is not relying on total emptiness, but rather on holistic methods that have been proven to work. Subconsciously I applied it without taking note that I was actually wishing for something, but as you stated I did.

Base on theoretical exposure to holistic practice, my inaction was the best action for it depended on holistic methods or medicine to get rid of the cold. In that sense the inaction was back by reasons not that it was out of pure emptiness.

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jannthomassen 13 months ago

Well written and certainly a hub worth reading; thanks for sharing.

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